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    TTS, strengths, weaknesses, work arounds

    The TTS are good in so many ways, but:

    Annoying mode change, etc...
    It is a PITA to go from ski to tour mode. So what if the boot could pivot without undoing the heel using a tensioned partial hinge, essential making TTS a three mode binding. This would still allow for a free pivot if you wanted to unhook the heel lever, but it would add a meadow skipping mode for times when neither ski nor free pivot is a good fit. I realize this adds weight and complicates a simple system, but it also preserves the positives such as release, free pivot, potential for brakes, etc...

    Lacking ski mode ROM:
    The TTS suffers from lack of spring cartridge ROM, even in my "maximum" set up using Axl springs, TTS can bottom out. Yes, most bindings will bottom out, but if the the duck butt (gawd forbid) were used as the second point of attachment, the same length springs would provide more ROM ... admittedly I'm not an engineer, so I expect one or two to chime in ....

    Lack of widespread marketing:
    How can folks try this system if no one sells it or has demos??

    Boots, boots, we need boots:
    I was fortunate to score some F1 before Scarpa closed them out, which is sad as this is a great boot for lightweight meadow skipping, but sadly there is nothing lighterweight than a TX now. On the heavier end of the spectrum I finally had to put my original stiffy Terminators X to rest, so now I am skiing a newer TX and they are just not a good replacement, too soft. The fey Bros will supposedly have the Shiver and Evo Randos in all sizes this year... I have some Shivers on order, but we still need more boots. Is there any reason why Scarpa has not added tech fittings to the Comp?

    Improving Ankle Flextion:
    On my Terminator X stiffies I dremeled a notch connecting the walk lever lock out holes, essentially making the lock lever into a slider. I originally did this so I could use the boots for alpine boarding, but when I tried it with TTS it was a nice freeriding boot that lessened the tendency toward bottoming out the springs. I thought about taking this to the next step and having a slider combined with a lock out.
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    "fey Bros?" Someplace to get Crispi boots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesliva View Post
    "fey Bros?" Someplace to get Crispi boots?
    Fey Brothers of Telemarkdown.com fame, and now, as the official US distributors of Crispi boots. Story at EarnYourTurns.com.

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    I'm still envisioning something like the demo plate for dynafit's heel with a quick release so the heel could be moved way back. That with some mounts for the heel throw like Voile's hardwire paired with F1's and you could kick and glide flats and lock down for steeps. I guess it's because that's the only thing I miss about tele. Kick and glide and low angle transitions are better IMO.

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    TTS holds the boot heel down so firmly that it is best to just unlatch the heel throw when striding over flats and rolling terrain. This is the case even when the heel assembly is mounted in the foremost, least active position.

    When the heel assembly is mounted fully aft to max out heel hold down, it skis like an alpine binding. The boot heel stays on the deck unless convincingly persuaded otherwise. Because of this I have been considering using TTS with a non-bellowed AT boot like a TLT5 or ONE for long days in challenging terrain. I have a pair of F1s (bellowed) but these days there are numerous boot offerings that are as light as F1s but have markedly better downhill chops. Unfortunately none of them that I know of have bellows ... at least not yet.

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    Yes, TTS holds things down well unless you have a system with more spring travel like the Axl.

    I get decent travel on my newer TX, but not as good as my old TX which had the walk mode modified to be a slider.

    With an unlocked cuff, the TTS is not bad for striding, but then it's not really meant for striding in ski mode. Would you expect decent striding from an Axl or BD01 in ski mode?

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    My idea is to use a soft spring for kick and glide and skating, only the toe for skin track and the heel for steeps. Probably not worth the weight penalty, but interesting to me nonetheless.
    Last edited by Matt J; 5th September 2013 at 03:58 AM. Reason: mobile font size

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    With a little more enginurding I believe the TTS concept will allow exactly what you're after with a quick change cable adjustment system where you could change from high tension springs to softer ones in a matter of minutes, and a training heel that retracts like G3's Onyx or the new Diamir Z12 does. THAT and the weight and the power is why I believe the future of Tele gear will be in the Telemark Tech System format.

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    haha Matt B

    I was trying to fix the super small font size when posting from my phone but I guess I over did it. Over compensation I guess edit: It appears it's the viewing not the posting that makes it look small on my phone?

    Let's hope so, Dostie. Seems to be simply an engineering question which usually gets solved although not by me. Then it will all come down to weight.

    I've changed my zip code again this summer so I'll probably be changing a lot of gear too. Maybe TTS will be in the cards. I've already got a pair of F1's and a few pairs of tech toes so I guess it wouldn't be too much trouble. It'll have to beat out leathers and cables for meadow skipping though.
    Last edited by Matt J; 5th September 2013 at 03:59 AM.

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